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Recipe and of course it's the best ever, you know, and yours is nothing compared to mine. >> right, it's true. it does become very territorial doesn't it? >> yeah. >> romans revere what they call the four pastas. >> tucci: nice to see you, thank you for having me. simple but iconic dishes of staggering deliciousness. they are creamy cacio e pepe, made with mainly sheep's cheese and pepper the ancient gricia, which has added pork, its luxurious cousin carbonara which is elevated with egg yolks and finally our lunch today, amatriciana - made with tomatoes......and this roman favourite, guanciale...

And not just acting against tennis balls. that's the sad thing when you're acting against nothing. then i can't keep track of that and god knows the actors can't. >> seems like you really let charlize thereon as the head of the good school. you really let them have fun with their characters. what was it like working with these power houses, these icons? >> well, it was great. i mean, i worked with charlize when i directed "arrested development." i did two episodes with her when we had her walking on water across a pool. once you made her walk across water, you're in. but she's great. she has s...

Something that's the right size are not just acting against tennis balls. i think, that's the sad thing, they were just on a green screen set and acting against nothing. i can't keep track of that, and god knows the actors can. >> it seems like he really let charlize their own as the head of the evil school, and carrie washington as the head of the good school, you really let them have fun with their characters so what was it like working with this powerhouses, these icons? >> it was great. i worked with charlize when i directed arrested development. i did two episodes with her, and we had her...

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>> okay. >> and these soft rice cakes too. >> okay. >> okay? kimchi. tony, you go frank. >> yes. mm! >> both, okay? >> yeah. dating back to famine years of the korean war, scrounging and scavenging from american military bases, it's, in fact, a classic example of necessity being the mother of deliciousness. hot dogs, canned baked beans, spam, instant noodles, put together with the ever-present gochujang and kimchi. it became an enduring and deeply loved classic. >> baked beans. >> like i used to say to my first girlfriend, "how could something so wrong be so right?" >> one, two. one more. tony...