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She's come out and said she believes in roe, believes it should be codified. she doesn't sign on to support a democratic bill that would do just that because it goes too far. she'll introduce her own legislation. the way congress is divided right now, that legislation, bipartisan or her own, doesn't have the votes to pass. >> i'm guessing she's glad she's up in '20 and not in '22. >> absolutely. >> when she was up, what does she do? she votes against amy coney barrett, which was absolutely an issue in her senate race. >> eugene, the thing that interests me in a post-war world, how many officia...

Than 8500. fair to say, pam bozanich is not one of them. >> life in prison for those two is just fine. i hope they live a long, long life. this sunday, the fate of roe v. wade. >> life is so precious, and these babies have a chance now. >> the supreme court signals it's ready to allow an abortion ban at 15 weeks. is it going to weaken or overturn roe v. wade? >> is it really an issue about choice? why is 15 weeks not enough time? >> lawyers defending roe argue that fetal viability should remain the standard. >> mississippi's ban on abortion two months before viability is flatly unconstitutio...

There have been 160-some carveouts to the filibuster. even robert byrd himself said -- >> how would you change the rule for codifying roe? >> this would be some change to the senate rules and most likely not this particular issue. right now we're really focused on voting rights. it would be a way to put this out there for the american public so that people would be required to be in the chamber and actually debate things and come up with an outcome at some point. because right now, if the republicans want to go into this election, which i think does look at where we're heading, the america peo...

Perfectly willing to have that argument. i think when you get into the details of the questioning and what comes next in a post-roe world is where republican policymakers are less comfortable talking about it. >> errin, i got the sense, you're describing -- what he's hoping for, you're describing what roe allowed for, this uneasy piece that we have on this issue. >> the thing is, watching that interview, yes, knowing where the rest of the country is on this issue, you have that polling showing the majority of americans feel like the there should be -- abortion should be add loud with some exce...

For hospitalizations. they ran out of beds at a hospital in boston. our third federal team to assist minnesota hospitals with covid-19. clearly we've got a delta issue. is there anything about our travel over the next four weeks that has you concerned, and would you advise folks to maybe rethink their travel plans? >> well, i think people need to pay close attention to all those recommendations that maybe we've gotten a little sloppy about. in terms of domestic air travel, i think with masks required on all travel conveyances, whether it's air or whether it's taxis or trains, that's going to b...