this is a phone call from a trump campaign staffer because here s where the other thing we got out other than the emotion and the news about the threats and all of the sort of context how much people were threatened was just how much this was tied directly to the trump campaign. here s a trump campaign staffer pushing for these new slates of fake electors. hi, representative. my name is angela mccullum. calling from trump headquarters in washington, d.c. rona mcdaniel testified that the republican national committee, tied very much to the president, was asked by one of trump s aides in late 2020 to help gather contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing changed the result of the slates. my understanding is that the campaign did take the lead and we were just helping them in that role. how important is it to establish
wrongdoing. how do you think trump received hearing these women testify against him today? oh, i don t think he cares. you know, donald trump is craven enough and unhinged enough and he revels in violence and racism to the extent that all of this to him seems a logical outcome of people not doing what he wants, so i don t think we have to look at whether or not donald trump will be chastened by any of this because he won t be. he has to be held accountable are and i think one of the important things about today s hearings, is all of them and the themes in the hearings are not new. we ve seen them in the media and talked about them for a long time but each of the hearings are doing important things. they are filling in the fact pattern that real matters from a