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Is the head of the -- he's the top law enforcement official in the country. >> yes. >> and if he is removed, rod rosenstein is no longer in charge of the russian investigation. this person, the person who is now in this office is not recused. >> why trump wants him to resign but not fire him. >> is he thinks potentially if you go into his mind and try to figure out what his plans are, i think there is a concern that if you fire sessions after firing comey, after reportedly wanting to fire mueller, now you start to get into, why is he trying to get rid of them. >> ding, ding, ding. >> in his mi...

The campaign. we he don't know what else was coming. do you have any sense of what could come down the pike? >> to the president, i would caution him to say this proves anything. i think rod rosenstein made it clear. we don't know what special counsel robert mueller and his team have. i will say this. i have been a cautious skeptic of the russian investigation from the beginning. not that we don't need to look into this, but if you go back to the 1950s, j. edgar hoover wrote a book of "masters of deceit of the russians interfering in the political system." this was under president truman and e...

Those who argue that democracy doesn't work. the restrictions on the press are necessary and the intolerance and tribalism and organizing ourselves along ethnic lines are the answers to the day's challenge, and extreme nationalism, and xenophobia, and the policies of us versus them. isolationism, or nationalism, where they can suggest rolling back the rights of others. openness to immigrants and refugees, that is fundamental to who we are. i am convinced that the future does not belong to strongmen. >> tucker: blah, blah, blah. that was former president obama. he was in canada today, obliquely...

Have their skepticism up and they need to really look at their new sources to see if they're getting information that's good. >> that is the eternal challenge, isn't it? your point is you're not in business to tell president trump what's true, you're in business to tell everybody else what he says is true or false. >> and that's exactly the point. democracy doesn't work without an informed lek tort. and right now for people who are seeking credible, accurate, independently vetted information, they can't just wait for it to come to them. they have to active lie seek it out. >> well, happy fact-...

The it's a big picture? >> right. i don't think many people could have planned for a trump presidency. this was sort of like a hail mary pass that somehow worked. they wanted -- the expectations were that hillary clinton was going to win. so the idea was -- >> to mock us? >> to mock us, but if the russian plan appears to have been hillary clinton is going to win. the only and best thing we can do is to sew distrust, and have people feel that democracy doesn't work, and in response to her questionable victory, you have vladimir putin on the other side. they won't be on equal plains. trump someh...