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Optic. his stature has risen. we walk away with nothing. they have no intention of denuclearizing. there is some indication they're expanding the nuclear capability. where is the, danger is zone? we're in a worse place. >> before the summit took place, we sat here saying, they need to agree on the definition of denuclearization. here we are, weeks later, clearly, that's not the case, if north korea is saying, you're coming at us with gangster-like tam tick tactics. meaning, you denuclear liize ane do nothing. >> we knew there was no willingness on the north korea side to denuclearize. we know ...

Nonsense what rudy giuliani is asking for what would mueller's next strategic move be? >> well, he has two options. one is to go forward without it. there's nothing mandating he sit down with trump. any good prosecutor's going to want to to determine whether there are any inconsistent statements. and also just to, you know, dot is and cross ts, to make sure everything is consistent with what they've understood. alternatively, they could subpoena him. we saw this with president clinton during the whitewater investigation. in that instance, president clinton agreed to sit down in exchange for th...

Heard chairman kim agree to, none of us have seen in writing. and so they're very dug in on this. and mike pompeo's own credibility within the government, within the country, is at risk, because he's been the one, more than any other member of the cabinet, that was pushing, as he did, to make this happen, where they gave kim jong-un the gift he wanted, and the united states really walked away with nothing. >> okay. well, what does it mean that mike pompeo did not meet with kim jong-un. for the layperson, should it matter to us? >> i think it should matter in a big sense. mike pompeo thought he...