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A nuclear missile again. to prove its reliability, to show him wrong. and fundamentally it comes across as two kindergartners who are joist ling each other except each has nuclear women's pete feet that's nikolas, hileman. >> who is the other guy? it's the intelligencey's it would never work. if obama couldn't do it. no nobody could do it. until atrump threw a wrench in the gears. griff: if he gets what they call deliverables in washington, whether it be denuclearization agreement or an actual formal signing between trump and u.n. about ending the korean war, if he gets something what then wil...

Nic. >> reporter: good morning, christine. sergei lavrov meeting with kim jong-un in pyongyang is a clear indication that russia is wading into the middle of what president trump may view as u.s. business. laying downey d ideas that russ believes is important to get a denuclearization agreement. he says it is very clear that to do this in a come prope-hence sh way, you -- comprehensive way, you lift yourself into sanctions. president trump and kim jong-un may agree and should go to the united nations security council. this is odd language from russia which typically avoids the united nations. ...

One meeting to reach a denuclearization agreement. he also said the north korean former intel chief will likely visit the white house tomorrow to deliver a personal letter from the north korean leader. north korea is also expected to be a major topic of discussion as defense secretary james mattis meets with asian defense ministers in singapore. joining us now to talk about this is nbc pentagon correspondent hans nichols who is traveling with secretary mattis in singapore. and we also have an expert on u.s./china relations and national security issues. >> hans, let's start with the trip you ar...

Stage. >> yeah we know a lot, but there's a lot we don't know. they kept surprising us with how far they've gone in their program. so as i say they would have to agree to a level of intrusion that country has never allowed. they barely allow reporters there. >> does it feel like we're headed for a trump moment where he simply declares a victory and claims he has achieved a denuclearization agreement, even though that has not been achieved? >> hard to believe he can get away with that. it's just too -- this is -- this is just too transparent. either you've got it or you don't. i think the most ...

Lawrence, the level of intrusive inspections you would need in north korea -- the iranians only sold this carpet once, the nuclear carpet. this guy sold it three times. can you imagine the evangelical -- level of intrusive inspections we would need in north korea to be sure they denuclearizationed? can you see them agreeing to that? i find that most unlikely. >> we had iran mapped where they were. north korea there's way too much guess work in that at this stage. >> yeah we know a lot, but there's a lot we don't know. they kept surprising us with how far they've gone in their program. so as i ...