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He thought it unlikely that north korea would ever denucl r denuclearize. we are such a long way from back from a year ago from the demand there would be denuclearization. in one of his last tweets, president trump had denuclearization question mark. i think the test will be is there any agreement on a last, for example? you can't denuclearize in you don't know what weapons and materials north korea has. has north korea agreed to produce a list? >> of course president trump said in june after the lat summit, quote, there is no

Isn't going to stand for that. >> shannon: he's pulling out of the imf treaty which he says russia is violating. the headline in the "washington post," the reason isn't russia, it's north korea. he says trump's withdrawal may deb signed to send a subtle but unmistakable message to north korea if you refuse to denucl r denuclearize we can surround you. >> i think there's truth that, mark is an insightful person, know him well. we're stalemated on denuclearization talks. they have not given up a single missile or single nuclear weapon. that's the barometer in my judgment for success. all that sa...