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Supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. [laughter] right? the racists, sexist, homophobic, islamaphobic, you name it. >> sandra: if she makes a run, that was september 2016, will that always come back to haunt her, charlie? >> oh, i think without a doubt. and you know, doug scheon in the wall street journal focusses on joe biden's poll numbers and the poll numbers of democrats in congress. but what he does not address, and this is the real sticking point, is you know, hillary clinton has been the most divisive and unpopular figure, one of the most divisive and unpopular figures ...

Interview in the history of clinton interviews. everybody remembers the triangulation that made bill clinton famous in congress, but hillary clinton is doing super triangulation there, and always with the clintons, a loss of memory, to put it charitably. hillary clinton has not been the great stalwart. she's gone for free healthcare for illegals, and a lot of these things. and suddenly sending up for centerism in the pandemic party, i don't think it's necessarily helpful for the democrats in congress right now. >> sandra: interesting. speaking of notable hillary clinton interviews, we figured,...

With people across party lines. this is what i have done throughout my time in congress and this is the kind of leadership that i'll bring as president, because as i look out at the people of our country, i do not see deplorables, i do not see only those who may agree with my party or my views on things i see fellow americans, treat them with respect and understand that my responsibility and my commitment is to serving every single one of them. maria: you mentioned the no deplorables of course that deplorables comment came from hillary clinton back in the campaign days. she attacked you callin...

The basket of deplorables comment. >> brian: it's not just illegally or call you a name, it's to destroy you. it's to destroy her livelihood, to make you unemployable, to prevent customers from coming to your business. that has affects not just for the supporter of the candidates, but what about family? what about friends? what about people who depend on that livelihood? this has gone beyond the pale in terms of taking politics and making it the center of people's identity, which somehow gives them the permission to destroy other people. >> melissa: their response to that -- because i've been ...

Have to wrestle with as they head towards the general election is how to come up against trump. do you argue with him on his level and get pulled into the tweet storms and the inflammatory comments. do you keep advancing an affirmative vision for how you would govern as president? for the most part they did criticize trump and did stay away from his rhetoric. we're making a mistake that hillary clinton did with her famous deplorables comment. >> david jolly in the studio last night. claire mccaskill was among our guests. she in rare honesty for someone after a democratic debate especially a pr...