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Pled to. >> all right. do we have a picture of this judge? yeah okay, there she is. this is what i don't understand. you both are going to explain it to me. so this industry, child pornography could not exist if people didn't bit stuff all right? because it's done for money. it's the lowest, most depraved act on the planet. all right. there is nothing worse than this. all the murdering of a child, okay. this is really murdering a child. you kill their spirit and they never recover from it. two years that's shoplifting third offense or something like that. so what was the justification by this ...

Admitted that. the question now, is it first degree murder? will she get the death penalty. >> greta: and it's beyond a reasonable doubt. when somebody changes the story three times and preposterous, she's still presumed innocent. i'm curious, any sense what the defense is? i know there's been suggestion of self-defense, but through the cross examination has the defense attorneys, have they thrown in the towel or just trying to spare her life or actually trying to get her -- does it seem like they believe they're going to, you know, that they have a defense, a viable one? >> i don't know what ...

To have dinner one night and maggie made a comment like mr. compton stepping on the american flag and i said what do you mean. she said, yeah, he stepped on the flag and i said when? and she said i didn't tell you about this? i said no. and i said start from the beginning. tell me exactly what happened. so she tells me the story just like she said, as far as like what he did, what happened and i said, well, what was the whole point this have? i mean, was there something he was trying to teach and she said i really don't remember anything. i said was he getting overexcited in the moment of sayi...

First-degree murder? will she get the death penalty? >> greta: it's beyond beyond a reasonable doubt, when someone starts changing a story three times and both are preposterous, it seems unlikely she will be found not guilty. but she is still presumed innocent. do you have any sense of the defense? there has been a suggestion of self-defense. but has the defense attorneys thrown in the towel? are they trying to spare her life or trying to get her -- does it seem like they believe they will -- that they have a defense, a viable one? >> yeah. i don't know what they believe. but here's what they ...

Not with the police department, who's armed, who disobeys a 911 call. i'm not surprised at all. >> so gary, as we talk about the charges sxheerks let's just read it out for everybody, because under florida law this is how they describe second-degree murder. defined as the unlawful killing of a human being and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life but not involving a willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing. the word "depraved" really stands out. based on the evidence that you've seen, how difficult do you think it's going to be to prove, that prosecute this? >> sure, it is dif...