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Power, circle of power, the advisors around you, people don't give it up, even obviously it is something he shouldn't undertake. emily: his team won't give it up, exactly to your point. will: it will be fascinating to see the response of rings of power around him, pete, emily. what will be the response of the democrat, of the democratic party? i don't know they can look at 2024 and say, yeah, we can again nominate joe biden. look they may be able to convince themselves of that because of the way they have been able to manage quite honestly, manage this presidency so far. we don't think that jo...

For some long johns right now. it is about 32 degrees right here. i'm within the city of el paso, pete. the city of el paso, essentially, but for the rio grande river and border blends into juarez, mexico. i don't know if you see behind me. this is a section of the border wall with razor wire on the and lights of juarez literally have guards on the other side of that border wall. pete: interesting. emily: we hear reports of streets cleaned up, that is pretty clean behind you. this is the ahead of the landscape of the city issuing a disaster declaration, so they open up the shelters. the presid...

Up the camps leave, they were cleaning up. i think that is absolutely not right. you do not clean up for the president, okay? the president, this is the president's fault, not our fault. so why would we clean up you know. so, no, leave it like it is. let him come and see for himself the real picture you know. he needs to know what is going on. otherwise he will come and say, oh, well there is no crisis. no, that's not right. >> absolutely. will: clean up for the president, not for the people that live here. >> it has to be el paso residents first. will: lupe, rosie, thank you for getting up, b...

Border patrol, we love you guys, they're stretched thin. now you have a tent city, i'm sorry -- okay if i continue? will: yeah. >> tent city being set up, a processing facility in northeast el paso. no one consulted residents across the highway. it is going up. obviously they're planning for this to continue or they wouldn't be constructing it. we feel completely unheard by our mayor, our county judge, our congresswoman escobar. will: to be clear this is vastly different than what you both have experienced. we were joking not ask them how old they are. you've been in el paso a long time. vastl...

That is essentially what the world is feeling right now, is abject terror around fear of prolonging the current state of things, especially economically should this person continue to hold office. remember a few months ago we had reports coming out his team is essentially creating a campaign easily shiftable. that can easily pivot should he actually decline to run or something happened, someone challenge him perhaps in the primary, they actually get it. they can pivot the slogan, oh everything's fine to a kamala harris to, a pete buttigieg, or the like. i have to point out as well as gallup un...