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Attackers, were they born in great britain or outside of the country and moving in there. the great deal of terrorists in particular within europe is coming from people born within the countries they attack. isn't that right? >> that's right. this is where the threat comes from, and it begs the question, what is the domestic policy that's in place to prevent these things? the uk is struggling with trying to get certain countering radicalization programs really going, the prevent program, for example, but you have, you know, malevolent naysayer fifth column islamist groups in the uk arguing day...

We need a global effort that identifies the threat and goes to his court to eliminate it. >> and that means kill the terrorists, right? >> it means kill the terrorists, we've had a number of individuals have left guantánamo bay. they've gone back to do radicalization programs in saudi arabia and we have found those programs have been very ineffective. we have not found a way to counter the ideology to get people to change their beliefs back to something that is nonthreatening. >> thank you for being with us. >> three suspects have been shot

President trump is a businessman, right? that's his whole thing. and it's about showing support for the saudis against iran, hence the billion dollar arms deal. the speech was very nice, the wording was very nice and yes, the muslim world does need to do more, this is something that is the responsibility of the muslim world. >> did these leaders hear a challenge of what's next? >> i think they did, at this level when a speech is made, it's a very basic generic message and then the details will begin to get ironed out. so visiting this counter terrorism center, saudi arabia, doing deradicalizat...

Metastasize? >> great word. >> it has to be a political, economic, cultural solution to this issue and a deradicalization to destroy the ideology. however, most military analysts who i speak to, including former nato officials, including cnn analysts, military an lives say right now there needs to be a military solution. you have to eradicate isis and that's not going to happen with some nice deradicalization programs or slow, play the long game. >> it will be mike makes right for two main reasons. >> military first and then the long game. >> everybody has understood that combination. you're r...

Sucked into the utopian world that offers answers. young people have malleable ideas. >> let's talk about the how. the half way house this minnesota teen was sent to, there's been some criticism level from the daily beast revealing they have no experience in deradicalization. the question becomes -- who are the right groups or former jihadist that was deradicalized. how do you do it? >> these are excellent questions. i don't think there's actually any set answer. on the one hand, if you look at the massive deradicalization programs, they don't have an unblemished record of success. there's a d...