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Seen. including the second and third largest city falling within just a week. startling. >> he was asked if there was a fear that kabul would fall to the taliban, he said this is a moment for the afghan people. for the afghan government, the afghan forces to step up to unite. how realistic is that considering what we know are the challenges of the afghan forces, the desertion rate as well and what we have seen over the last week? >> entirely unrealistic considering the momentum of the taliban on the ground and how the afghan people are reacting to it. it's as if the u.s. administration neglect...

Look at those isis. we killed them, those pimps, isis, one of them shouts. [ gunfire ] not far away, more iraqi soldiers battle the militants. amid claims and counterclaims of who controls what, the government insisting it has retrenched and refocused its forces to keep isis out of the capital. inside baghdad, we find thinly manned check points. no heavy weapons in sight. a solitary armored personnel carrier is all. >> we're driving out to the west of baghdad. the army has drawn a line in the sand to stop the isis advance coming in from the west. but it's far from clear they can do it. there h...

>> and the afghan national army, the police, there's obviously been a lot of taliban infiltration into the police force. we've seen a lot of attacks on the u.s. forces and others. how is the army? how capable are they? >> better than expected. anderson, the desertion rate is very high. you reported on the blue attacks, they're taking heavy casualties. the afghan army doesn't publicize it, but they're taking heavy casualties. but we know anecdotally that they are fighting the taliban, taking heavy casualties. people have been pleasantly surprised about their ability to hold territory. >> you ha...

>> and the afghan national army, the police, there's obviously been a lot of taliban infiltration into the police force. we've seen a lot of attacks on the u.s. forces and others. how is the army? how capable are they? >> better than expected. anderson, the desertion rate is very high. you reported on the blue attacks, they're taking heavy casualties. the afghan army doesn't publicize it, but they're taking heavy casualties. but we know anecdotally that they are fighting the taliban, taking heavy casualties. people have been pleasantly surprised about their ability to hold territory. >> you ha...

Anderson, the desertion rate is very high. you reported on the blue attacks, they're taking heavy casualties. the afghan army doesn't publicize it, but they're taking heavy casualties. people are pleasantly surprised about their ability to hold territory. >> you have also explained it is not iraq, explain what you mean. >> well, if you go to iraq, the violence is three or four more times the earlier levels. you're more likely to be killed there was a civilian than during the iraq war. in iraq, the violence is really going back to some very bad places. and afghanistan is remaining pretty stable...