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Different ways, by the way. >> people are arguing today, there's no evidence. intelligence is data points of information which may be come from a myriad of despaired points. until they are in the hands of someone like my associate here, nick, is not evidence. >> right. >> it is within the constellation of information. and once it's in justice department's hands and they work it up as part of a case, then it becomes evidence. >> then there's a constitutional bar you have to cross here which we've seen the beginning of the process. >> there is also the question of time. i think that's in the fro...

Shows up, which has nothing to do with what they were investigating in the first place, but if you take exactly what they have, there is a lot of ground to cover. >> my question is the time line. something you have spoken about before, the way that sort of threshold, evidentiary threshold, which is quite different, and the latter could take a lot more time in terms of working through something you you could bring before court. >> you're right. and saying this in testimony before congress, he said, i'm not in the evidence business. i'm in the intelligence business. which is absolutely correct. ...