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Times" just posted entitled "how a shadow foreign policy in the ukraine prompted an impeachment inquiry." tell us what you can about what you describe as this shadow foreign policy. >> you know, what is really remarkable about this story, wolf, is if you look at what the state department was doing to approach ukraine it looked a lot lake the policy that had been pursued by the obama administration. that is to say try to bolster the democracy, keep funds particularly military funds going to the ukraine. keep sanctions on russia. try to push the russians back from their efforts to destablize eas...

Ambassador. a question that came up in the op-ed piece, if all that happens in russia, do our actions matter? is there enough damage happening to the russian economy perhaps this doesn't pay to go further into ukraine? >> well, i don't think so. there may be some economic costs to the russians for illegally annexing crimea, for trying to destablize eastern ukraine, frankly i think the problem right now is the united states and europe have not been able to drive up the cost enough. president putin's very decisive around his strategic aim is to build this band of buffer states around russia to p...