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When the facts come out on this, i think a lot of people who are claiming that there has been this tremendous sort of spying and monitoring and hack willing be proved wrong. >> so here you have the senate intelligence committee chairwoman saying her committee was spied on by the cia, the very organization it's charged with overseeing. well, joining me right now is national security correspondent for mcclatchy and the chief of staff to leon panetta from 2009 to 2011 and worked on drafting the investigation agreement between the senate intelligence committee and the cia. let me go right now to j...

Detention practices. i know you're dying to read that report, as i am, but it happens to be classified. but she and senator levin and john mccain have put out statements saying that their report -- this is part of what you just read -- indicated to them that there was basically nothing that came from enhanced interrogation, what i would call torture, waterboarding, that was significant in finding bin laden. and so what they've done, what they've done on the committee is they've asked acting director mike morell to send them whatever information he shared with the filmmakers to see if there was...

Cia interrogation practices, and they produced a report that came out a few weeks ago that was 6,000 pages long on the cia detention practices. i know you're dying to read that report, as i am, but it happens to be classified. but she and senator levin and john mccain have put out statements saying that their report -- this is part of what you just read -- indicated to them that there was basically nothing that came from enhanced interrogation, what i would call torture, waterboarding, that was significant in finding bin laden. and so what they've done, what they've done on the committee is th...

Criticized bush are not so eager to criticize obama. but what you have here is a program where they're taking very few detainees, they are killing a lot of people, by their own account some 1,200 militants as they describe them, but there's also collateral damage, which is the euphemism for killing innocents. that's happening to some degree. you know, as one person in the story said to me, you know, why is it that detention practices are so controversial when killing people is not. we haven't seen much of a discussion about this policy of obama's. but it is very much a take no prisoners approa...

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