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Orientation of law enforcement has really changed. it used to be investigate, prosecute. perhaps he could prevent it if you knew some information ahead of time for conspiracy sake but now it is about we should know what people are saying beforehand. we should try to see whether or not that is actionable and somehow get in there ahead of time. that is about social media as well as what law enforcement has done. that is an incredibly difficult stander given the fact that you have the right of free speech, the fact that if you haven't assembled weapons or taken any covert steps towards committing...

The order, will he call the 57th? mr. westling the attorney for paul manafort in court today. she also said about manafort, you seem inclined to treat these proceedings as just another marketing exercise and not a criminal case. how unusual is it in a matter like this, if there are other matters like this, for a judge to make a decision like this? >> well, i think it's not unusual that a judge in a situation where there is allegations of witness tampering and there's been a probable cause finding by a grand jury to revoke a bond. it's considered a very serious crime, especially by judges, beca...

She also said about manafort, you seem inclined to treat these proceedings as just another marketing exercise and not a criminal case. how unusual is it in a matter like this, if there are other matters like this, for a judge to make a decision like this? >> well, i think it's not unusual that a judge in a situation where there is allegations of witness tampering and there's been a probable cause finding by a grand jury to revoke a bond. it's considered a very serious crime, especially by judges, because it's a crime on the integrity of the criminal justice system. and so i was not surprised t...