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Oppresses his own people. he's gotten that. he created a deterrent value that drove us to the table by developing a nuclear arsenal, by testing it in a way that showed it had advanced rather quickly from where it was before. so the process is what matters now. there will be a lot to worry about if you're in the region. back home i think there will be a lot of politics being played about how much credit is due to president trump for achieving this. so, the process matters here. and you came into this segment talking about what's going on with our allies in the g7. we also have to judge that in ...

And the united states and it almost derailed the summit before it got going. the u.s. engaged in war games south korea. president trump's defense secretary made it clear that that issue is not up for negotiation. given what we heard from the president, how do you see this issue being resolved? >> i think that's one of the many things the president could use if he thought it would be benefit to the united states. i have got to address one issue many people are almost afraid. if american troops leave anywhere, that a catastrophic thing would happen. there is only a single combat brigade there. t...

That will slow down the regime's ability to rebuild its chemical weapons capacities. i would expect that some months down the road three, four, five months. he'll begin again testing american resolve. assad needs chemical weapons because he has a manpower shortage. he has a military incentive to use chemical weapons. and so unless the united states sustains its policy and strikes assad when he uses chemical weapons again, the deterrent value will be lost. >> hope us understand the profile of assad. you were ambassador to syria. what did you learn about him from dealing with him. about the way ...

See the death penalty in this case. does that weigh? >> it does. what happens is certainly, you know, as a prosecutor, what you do is you evaluate what the feelings are. by the victims. their families, in the community. what happened here was atroci s atrocious, heinous, outrageous. there is a cry for blood in this case. you cannot, strictly from a deterrent value, shoot up schools and just expect, okay, i'll plead guilty and spend the rest of my life in jail and that's the end of it. it will be a factor that the prosecution considers in moving forward. and quite frankly, john, in terms of thi...

And that would be an enormous -- that's not something that could just quickly be turned. that there would suddenly be a budget to increase the number of nuclear wpens in the united states. also there is this importance of the balance between the conventional force and the nuclear force. there is a very delicate balance that military leaders understand. they understand the utility of the fact that the conventional force is what the united states uses. look at syria. look at iraq. look at afghanistan. look at libya. the nuclear force is much more of a deterrent value. it provides a deterrent val...