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You looked at the exit poll on election day in 2016, hillary clinton had a very negative -- her numbers were 55% negative. trump's were 60. but the key for trump was the voters who didn't like clinton or trump broke for trump by nearly 20 points. what we're seeing in this nbc poll is voters who don't like biden and don't like trump, they're saying pretty overwhelmingly in our poll they'd go for the democrat now. >> we wanted to try something new in '16. we don't like either. so let's go with somebody we think might be better. we already know we don't like the other thing. this time, same thing...

You don't have to displace assad, but try to limit his reach to the areas of the country where the sunnis who have been killed by him, mostly by conventional weapons, the last six years, where they lived, where they deserve a better life. so even if we can't unseat assad, we can try to work on protecting them. it's actually giving some seriousness to this whole idea of safe zones and thinking them through. >> all right. michael o'hanlon, michael crowley, ayman mohyeldin, thank you for joining us. quick break. here on the other side, a shakeup at the white house that has a lot of people talki...

Basically a column a day about the fiscal cliff standoff here. watching boehner, i was struck by -- i feel like i saw that a year and a half ago. the summer where he walked out and hit the detonate button on the grand bargain talks. the question everyone is trying to figure out is was this posturing on boehner's part or is the idea of a deal really crumbling before our eyes. >> it's largely posturing and we tend to swing to emotional extremes. they were saying the deal is done and obama will spare everybody under 400,000 and do a deal. it's clear where they are and it's a matter of time. they ...