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>> do you believe -- settlements? >> i guess you know what i believe. i'm very, very strong on israel. i think israel has been treated very, very unfairly by a lot of different people. you look at resolutions in the united nations, you take a look at what has happened. they're up for 20 reprimands and other nations that are horrible places, horrible place, that treat people horribly haven't even been reprimanded. so there is something going on, and i think it's very unfair to israel. >> joining us now, phyllis a fellow with the institute for policy study and author of "inside palestinian: the ...

That that could happen in the future rather than acknowledging that it's already happening now. the response predictably from prime minister netanyahu was outrage, although the actual proposals in secretary kerry's presentation were not new and different. they were not qualitatively different than the clinton parameters, than the positions of the so-called quartet. these are the same positions that have been the basis of now 20 -- i guess it's about 25 years of failed u.s. diplomacy. based on this idea that there is going to be a two-state solution. but with no significant pressure on israel t...

I'm very, very strong on israel. i think israel has been treated very, very unfairly by a lot of different people. you look at resolutions in the united nations, you take a look at what has happened. they're up for 20 reprimands and other nations that are horrible places, horrible place, that treat people horribly haven't even been reprimanded. so there is something going on, and i think it's very unfair to israel. >> joining us now, phyllis a fellow with the institute for policy study and author of "inside palestinian: the conflict explained." please explain to us your perspective on what we ...

Of apartheid in international law. and i think that -- sorry, secretary kerry was implying that that could happen in the future rather than acknowledging that it's already happening now. the response predictably from prime minister netanyahu was outrage, although the actual proposals in secretary kerry's presentation were not new and different. they were not qualitatively different than the clinton parameters, than the positions of the so-called quartet. these are the same positions that have been the basis of now 20 -- i guess it's about 25 years of failed u.s. diplomacy. based on this idea t...