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Strong, traditional and cultural connection to the land and the animals on it. they want to maintain their lifestyle. this is something the government should be grabbing with both hands. by securing this land you are securing this land you are securing carbon, water sources and biodiversity. that is the asset and opportunity we need to grab. the development doesn't have to destroy the protected areas. let doesn't have to destroy the protected areas.— doesn't have to destroy the protected areas. let me tell ou a protected areas. let me tell you a story _ protected areas. let me tell you a sto...

It doesn't always work out that way. as you mentioned, there are areas of the country that can be these zones for economic development that are actually quite well developed already, and then you're giving wealthy investors tax breaks to pour money into places that are already rich. i think it's still possible, there are 9,000 of these around the country that include both rural and urban areas that are underdeveloped. it could be effective in getting money poured into those areas, but is that money developing glass office towers and fancy restaurants? is it pushing out existing residents? that...

Cities, particularly the actual, not just metro areas and actually in-city boundaries are entirely represented essentially by representatives in congress. they do not vote for republicans and the republicans don't care about them more or less from -- i'm not saying this because they're bad people, but from a constitchancy standpoint, they're not getting their votes. urban policy and this kind of thing is just not going to move very much unless there is a democratic president. michael, let's talk about the role that subsidies play because that's a big part of it. you're covering the fight over ...