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Lying to congress, a sitting judge lying. >> they have to find the proof to say that he was lying, jonathan. will they do that in this investigation? >> forget that. just to clarify, i'm not talking here about the alleged assault on dr. ford. i'm talking about a dozen other occasions where there are now a number of stories that you can read where he very clearly did not tell the truth about a wide variety of things where it can be established with witnesses that he did not tell the truth. some of the examples are very little, like just take the devil's triangle. that was not a drinking game. t...

History, and we know by his book they will maybe go into his life by the supermarket, they can ask him, where did you work during these times? who did you know? who did you hang out with. i think it will be interesting to see if all the people are the same people that dr. ford remembers being with, if those are the people he also hung out with. also the yearbook, the devil's triangle, all those terms. what do those terms mean to you, because if gu to the internet, you know that those terms are not the terms that brett kavanaugh said they were. >> ladies, i'm sorry, i'm going to have to have th...

Association with ken delaney here, it would seem julie swetnick will not be interviewed or off the list, former classmates who contradicted his college accounts describing him as a frequent heavy drinker will not be allowed to speak. how thorough of an investigation can this be? >> the american people want a thorough investigation and want these witnesses interviewed. at this point they haven't been interviewed yet, but my hope is they will be. if you are not, they will have the same problem as they had before. why are you not interviewing relevant witness. why are you hiding from the american...

Most part of his soul and tell him when he blacked out. >> do you really believe devil's triangle was a drinking game? >> i'm going to come across as an aid yot. i've never heard of it. i still don't know what it is. i assume it's a drinking game. i don't know what it is. i could care less whether or not supreme court justices guzzled too much beer. i think we're in a ridiculous place. we should be talking about his legal juris prudence, how has he been as a public official, how has he comfoportaed himself wit six fbi investigations -- >> he does have to split hairs, he has to determine whethe...

Now the fact that he has misled the senate over and over and over again, that does not make him guilty of sexual assault of a 17-year-old. nor does the fact that he minimized the heavy drinking in his youth and misrepresented the misogyny in his yearbook. but it does go to the heart of judge kavanaugh's truthfulness any time he is faced with potentially incriminating questions. >> i did not find him credible. i don't believe boof is flatulence. i don't believe the devil's triangle is a drinking game, and i don't believe calling yourself a girl's alumnius is being her friend. and i think drinki...