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>> devin and kathy are not only business partners, they're also lovers. >> i'm the wife. whatever she's involved in, i'm involved in. before her, i had my own hustle that was pretty much staff-related. >> in the past, devin says she baited staff into relationships to frame them but stopped for fear of getting caught. >> i would find weak staff. whoever i found was obviously in here to -- because they obviously can't find somebody on the streets to get hooked up with, and then i would play them to get some money. >> the small percentage, one or two employees, that may cross the line with inmate...

Lovers. >> i'm the wife. whatever she's involved in, i'm involved in. before her, i had my own hustle that was pretty much staff-related. >> in the past, devin says she baited staff into relationships to frame them but stopped for fear of getting caught. >> i would find weak staff. whoever i found was obviously in here to -- because they obviously can't find somebody on the streets to get hooked up with, and then i would play them to get some money. >> the small percentage, one or two employees, that may cross the line with inmates, they cause problems. that's a security breach, it's an issue,...

Happens. >> they give you three meals a day and a bar of state soap and that's about it. >> if you don't have anybody on the outside sending you money, the only jobs here you can make money off of is probably 40 cents a day. >> kathy phillips is doing 14 to 17 years for forgery and writing bad checks. devin gann has been locked up for second-degree murder. within the prison walls, they are considered loan sharks. >> that's the best hustle. that's where you're going to make the most money. i started out with $10. put the $10 out, pulled in 20 the next week. put the 20 out and pulled in 40 the n...

Well, mostly everybody in here have some type of hustle. a lot of people don't have help from home and you have to survive in here. prison's not free. >> well, today is payday. the inmates have all gotten paid. this is also a day if you have borrowed money on the yard, this is the day that you should have the money to pay it back. and an infraction is against the rules and regulations, but it happens. >> they give you three meals a day and a bar of state soap and that's about it. >> if you don't have anybody on the outside sending you money, the only jobs here you can make money off of is prob...

Put the $10 out, pulled in 20 the next week. put the 20 out and pulled in 40 the next week, and i kept doubling until i got on my feet and got stable. it's a good hustle. if somebody doesn't pay me, i just don't deal with them no more. i tell my friends that are loan sharks, don't deal with them. you got some people in here that will bust them in the head with a lock or something. i ain't down with that. you'll go to single cell. i'm not feeling that. i mean, i'll just chalk it up as a loss and go on about my business. >> devin and kathy are not only business partners, they're also lovers. >> ...