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That's not true. >> only three terrorists with american blood on their hands were ever water boarded. >> in many cases, it was just a few days. in these cases, it was just a few weeks. >> this program evolved. some of the stuff that they tried to do is not working. and during the evolution process, i realize that i shouldn't be part of this. i shouldn't be a witness to this. i reported it to headquarters and headquarters pulled us out. >> so you have to try to provide a lens of history that doesn't exist yet. i understand people are uncomfortable with this. but the options we had were not very...

That resulted because of water boarding. that's not true. >> only three terrorists with american blood on their hands were ever water boarded. >> in many cases, it was just a few days. in these cases, it was just a few weeks. >> this program evolved. some of the stuff that they tried to do is not working. and during the evolution process, i realize that i shouldn't be part of this. i shouldn't be a witness to this. i reported it to headquarters and headquarters pulled us out. >> so you have to try to provide a lens of history that doesn't exist yet. i understand people are uncomfortable with t...

Go on as many networks as possible. he is a tell igs have star and he has an unbelievable force with his personality. he can handle any situationhe h >> and yet >> maybe he will. an evolution process. >> let's deal with the future in the future. you said he's trying to unify. i don't understand that on the facts. how is it unifying to say if you don't exercise your freedom of speech, i will disinvite from you the white house. >> now you're being unfair. you're relating to that off the cuff interview outside the ms 13 meeting where he was cuffing it, as he's sometimes prone to do. he doesn't --...