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Every high capacity magazine they could get their hands on. these are all issues, and to try to make this a single as opposed to a multi-dimensional problem, you know, congress may pass one law or something, but unless we address it, number one for the long term, and, number two, every one of these issues we are not going to help this terrible problem in our country. >> doctor, i want to play a piece of sound from "face this nation" this morning. this is new york's senior senator chuck schumer. i want to play what he said and talk to you on the other side because it piqued my interest. take a ...

Number of magazines involved, the number of bullets that he had on him, the number of bullets that the shooter had left. based on that information, what more can we glean, if anything, about the shooter and perhaps his intentions? >> well, it sounds like this shooter had more ammunition than almost anybody we've heard in recent history, and realize, again, so far this year we have had 13 mass shootings in this country, in multiple mass murders. this is such a multi-dimensional problem. you, like me, i'm getting e-mails from your listeners, people watching, but everybody has their own issue. it...

Can't -- it's very difficult to perceive of a single test that will deal with that. don't forget, this young man who was deeply, profoundly disturbed. >> clearly. >> got his weapons through his mom who was not. >> but here's the thing. we say he was deeply disturbed, clint van zandt, but clearly he was not disturbed -- he was not so disturbed that he could not orchestrate and plan and carry out these execution-style shootings. i mean, there had clearly been a great deal of planning involved in this. >> we've seen this, just like the shooting in aurora, colorado, and the shooting that we saw fr...