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Senator mccarthy of new hampshire. he was with bobby kennedy when he died. he was everywhere there. he wouldn't open these boxes. i knew there was great stuff them. because he was so sad at the way the decade had ended. martin luther king killed, he was with bobby kennedy when he died. and the riots in the streets and the violence in the antiwar movement finally, he comes down the stairs, it's time, it's time, it's now or never. if i have any wisdom to dispense. we spent the last -- last years of our lives relieving the 60s. we started with kennedy and went to the end of the decade together. >...

Full blessings will take a lot longer, but we have to fight for it. and we shall overcome. that's a moment when change happens. as you know, eddie, when the outside movement fires the conscious of the people and it happens. he loved him so much that he got so angry with the war had on dumb things. in this last years of his life, you saw is in those last years, he retained a remembrance of what was great about lyndon johnson, what was great about the country before the war. and he began to come to terms with johnson. it made him a happier person. it made him feel for field. he had done somethin...

You reflected on, having looked at everything in the boxes? his mood toward lyndon johnson and the increased escalation in vietnam? >> one of the things that happen for dick and me is that i was a jeh johnson loyalist. i ended up working for him in the last days of his white house and helped him on his memoirs. while i have been antiwar activist i had such great respect for what he did domestically. immigration reform, everything. dick was a kennedy loyalist. it was a fault line between the two. after the were escalated he was sent to johnson. he loved him so much, he was involved in doing the...