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Culture. >> joining us now, alicia malo e malone. what was happening in hollywood that led to this new aera? >> at the end of the 1960s, there were big budgets. they weren't making their money back. they didn't connect. that opened the door and paved the way for new young, hungry filmmakers making riskier films with smaller budgets that were part of the count ercounterculte were catering to. >> a lot of the movies in the '70sed the envelope. do you think they could get made today? >> definitely not, not in the same way. they are very much products of what was happening in america at the time. ...

I think flying over, i figured out that assange had podesta's e-mails. i told roger in this e-mail and subsequently i thought it was podes podesta's e-mails. this was my conclusion, my supposition. it did not come from assange, and it didn't connect back to assange. so there's no link from me to assange. the link is from me figure thing out and telling roger. now, if i was the source, it was because roger believed me, figuring it out, not because roger believed i had a source. >> so you gave that defense to mueller's prosecutors. >> it's actually the truth. >> it's also a defense. >> that's fi...

Out that assange had podesta's e-mails. i told roger in this e-mail and subsequently i thought it was podesta's e-mails. one more point on that. this was my conclusion, my supposition. it did not come from assange, and it didn't connect back to assange. so there's no link from me to assange. the link is from me figuring this out and telling roger. if i was the source, it was because roger believed me, figuring it out. not because roger believed i had a source. >> so you gave that defense to mueller's prosecutors. >> it's actually the truth. >> it's also a defense. >> fine, it's the truth. >> y...

Stone's mind that you would be that intermediary? >> you have to ask roger stone. i told roger stone. let's get this clear. in july, i was on vacation with my wife in italy, 25th anniversary, i think flying over i figured out that assange had podesta's e-mails. i told roger in this e-mail and subsequently i thought it was podesta's e-mails. >> so let's get -- >> one more point on that. >> go ahead. >> the other point is, this was my conclusion, my supposition. it did not come from assange and it didn't connect back to assange. so there's no link for me to assange. the link is from me figuring ...

Bob mueller is looking at and interviewed by bob mueller at some point. you have a piece coming out about the sessions recusal. give us your sense as to whether he was right to have recused himself, whether donald trump has ground to stand on and what it means. >> the strange thing about that is not only did sessions do the right thing, he did the right thing by the president. that's the irony of all things. he reserved the best case scenario for the president. if the report comes out by mueller and doesn't find criminal conduct linked to the president, it will be sessions recusal that gave cr...