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>> i think we're going to see a flat year, maybe a dip by the end of the year. it's tough to tell what interest rates are going to do, but if they stay at 4.25 and a $490,000 median home price, that with the down payment you have to have, and income to debt ratio of 33%, people with graduate degrees are hit double also by student loan debt and repayment. >> give me a comparison, from back in my day, many years ago, you had to have 20% down, you had to have proof of a good job with solid income. and you had to -- back in my day, a credit score didn't count. but these days you have to have a goo...

When mccain talks about iraq, he only wants to talk about it from the surge on, it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count. and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not. the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here he is, joy, why don't you respond to mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle. he wouldn't let go of the question of the surge. back again to the old war. >> will you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country sinc...

Immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not, but the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam, and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here is mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle here, and he wouldn't let go on th...

The big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not, but the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam, and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here is mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle here, and he wouldn't let go on the question of the iraq surge. again, what david said. let's listen again, back again to the old war. >> were you correct or inco...

About is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not but the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam and he doesn't want to have that argume argument. >> here is mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle here and he wouldn't let go on the question of the iraq surge. again, what david said. let's listen again, back again to the old war. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you...