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I don't think he's going to do the interview without being coached by his lawyers, and by his pr representation. but, i think he wasn't really sure of himself at times. and i think he's trying to find himself. i mean, this is a story about the fallen hero wanting to come back. >> jamie: can you even be a hero, though, jim, if it was all under a pre dense, if you took away the title from somebody else who maybe didn't dope? >> i don't think so. i think that this is the biggest disgrace in the history of sports and lance armstrong himself came out and said, well, that's not the case, but the dop...

Lied, and you did me harm. what will be the definition of harm done where you, for example, you take up a client's case. >> you're tarnished. you supported lance armstrong and believed in him, and in your contract it said there was an antidoping clause or a moral clause. we want to attach our brand with good, upstanding citizens, not drug addicts and that's what their argument is going to be. >> they're going to argue interior back, a lot of them would want to dissort themselves. >> a lot of people invested in him. there's been settlements to prove he didn't dope, to protect him. there was a l...