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Any additional security. >> that's the question of hillary clinton's culpability, the fact that they ignored this. that's a different question of the intelligence the white house got about what happened on the day. >> what i don't understand is, one, how her department, which she was head of, can be responsible for multiple failures in this thing, and she's blameless. >> she's not in charge of security. you think she's on the lines of security? >> juan, is she ultimately in charge? is she ultimately responsible for what happens in her department? >> certainly, but you have people on the ground...

Been a mechanic for 14 years instead of security, and the engine is making clanninging sounds or blue smoke is popping everywhere, and oil is leaking, you probably have a good understanding that the engine is bad. that's what's happening in the healthcare.gov infrastructure. you have all these companies, and it is not just hhs and cms, it's a number of different companies that came together to try to match this thing up to make it what it is today. and you're seeing that happen right now. so underneath it -- the problem is, if you look at the integration between the irs, dhs, third-party verif...

Irs and the department of homeland security, you could also get in to see what they said about the individual person who had signed up. how do you know that, again, how do you know that you can get this and even get into irs and get into dhs, and if in fact that's the case, what could a hacker do with an awful lot of private information? >> that's a great question. what you look for in assessing websites, i've been doing website security for a number of years, we break into websites all the time, and this is my area of expertise. we look at problematic areas around the website. and if you're s...

Application, so when you do that, security doesn't really get integrated into it. and what happened with the rocket launch in october, they slapped a bunch of servers in to try to fix the website just to keep it up and running so people could go and use it, but the problem is they still didn't embed security into it. so when you have another few hundred developers actually running code to try to keep the site up and running, you increase the line count of code and increases more and more exposures. that's what we saw here over a period of time and that's what we testified on. it's much worse t...

This report, i mean, it was a are seeing condemnation of sort of state and how they handled -- this was security and intelligence failure, which is resulted in this for americans. >> they talked about repeated growing terrorism presence in eastern libya and particularly of al qaeda. >> the intelligence was flooding the zone about report about deteriorating security. they talked about trip wires which were meant to bolster security were ignored and the cia was paying attention to these things. they bolstered their security. state department completely drawled the bop here. as a result, that new...