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Result of the things that happened to him as a kid. that is really the moral of the story. things happen to us as kids. somebody felt bad about it. so instead of taking the blame, they took the shame and acted like our legacy didn't exist, but it did. >> one of the extraordinary legacies you cultivated was with somebody else who would know about that, michael jackson, i wanted to talk about your relationship with michael. he was not here to tell the story. but he died as a tragic result of the hollywood victim, many would say. >> yes, indeed. ♪ ♪ ♪

Today. he did get himself together. he was in much better shape before he passed. he did not die of drugs, as i said when i was on larry king. i said when the toxicology reports came out, he was not on drugs and it was not because of drugs. but it was because of a life long abusing himself, as a result of the things that happened to him as a kid. that is really the moral of the story. things happen to us as kids. somebody felt bad about it. so instead of taking the blame, they took the shame and acted like our legacy didn't exist, but it did. >> one of the extraordinary legacies you cultivated...

Happened to him as a kid. that is really the moral of the story. things happen to us as kids. somebody felt bad about it. so instead of taking the blame, they took the shame and acted like our legacy didn't exist, but it did. >> one of the extraordinary legacies you cultivated was with somebody else who would know about that, michael jackson, i wanted to talk about your relationship with michael. he was not here to tell the story. but he died as a tragic result of the hollywood victim, many would say. >> yes, indeed. i save time, money,st, and i avoid frustration. you'll find reviews on home r...

Following his disastrous campaign for mayor of new york city. he tells "gq," quote, i'll say this, i have no desire to walk into a bar and pick up a woman. i love my wife and maybe if the internet didn't exist, like if i was running for mayor in 1955 i would probably get elected mayor. and joining us now is the magazine's deputy editor, michael hainey. >> wow, michael. >> you sound incredulous. >> i'm sure you'll clear this up. >> he also said i'm an empty soul vessel. >> has he said that? >> yes. it came at the end. it's a great piece because we were on trail with him the whole time and saw t...

The next six months who either doesn't have insurance or is on the individual market, between the website service that prior to october 1st didn't exist, a 1-800 number prior to october 1st that didn't exist, navigators and the ability to do it on their own, they can get insurance and will. >> last question, sir. former white house press secretary robert gibbs spoke recently about all the problems with the website. let's hear from him. >> i hope they're working day and night to get this done. when they get it fixed, i hope they fire some people that were in charge. this is excruciatingly embar...