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Crime. hacking is the crime. the president didn't hack. he didn't pay for the hacking he said on cnn. the article goes on. it is just a word choice, said a criminal law professor at georgetown. i'm sure nobody in the justice department has ever investigated collusion but they have investigated conspiracy. and rudy, she said of mr. trump's lawyer, knows better. for the record, the president has said collusion on twitter 94 times. giuliani has been giving interviews throughout the day. here is what he actually said. >> i have been sitting here looking at the federal code trying to find collusion...

New tonight, did rudy giuliani, president trump's own lawyer, admit there was collusion with russia? that's kind of a crazy thing to even ask, right? but one must ask it when giuliani said this not once but twice today, saying, oh, collusion isn't a crime. >> i don't even know if that's a crime, colluding about russians. you start analyzing the crime, the hacking is the crime. the hacking is the crime. >> that certainly is the original crime. >> the president didn't hack. i've been looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime. >> it's not. >> collusion is not a crime. >> thi...

Lied before your committee and he won't call him back. are you satisfied with that? >> not particularly but on the other hand again it points out how important it is for the mueller investigation to continue even as trump and his minions and his enablers continue to go after mueller in a very personal way and they're just heightening their personal attacks on mueller, and this is why that investigation must continue. >> rudy guiliani tells cnn, i am quoting now, the president didn't hack and didn't pay them for hacking. that defense comes days after cnn reported that michael cohen says the pre...

Crime. colluding about russians. you start analyzing the crime, the hacking is the crime. the hacking is the crime. >> the president -- it's a sign the president's legal team is is trying move the goal posts on the probe as the investigation moves closer to president trump's inner circle, he's trying to distance him from manafort. >> he was never involved in intimate business relationship with donald trump. >> the president's lawyer is doing the talking for the president on all things russia. all things michael chone and he's doing quite a lot of talk ing. jake. >> jeff, thanks so much. let's ...

Comes from giuliani, who attempted to downplay the criminal aspect of collusion with the russians. rather than deny that collusion took place, he now today argued that collusion isn't illegal. let's watch. >> i've been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime. >> it's not. >> collusion is not a crime. >> i don't even know if that's a crime, colluding about russians. you start analyzing the crime. the hacking is the crime. the hacking -- >> that certainly is the original -- >> the president didn't hack. >> of course not. that's -- >> he didn't pay them for ha...