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MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:45:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:45:00

Coercion and distress. >> reporter: so you're the moron in this story? >> i'm the moron. >> reporter: remember, this is ira's version of what happened. susan and her lawyer never responded to our repeated requests to hear her side. ira says it was during this volatile time that kelly came up with the idea of hiring a hit man. so kelly did this on her own? >> yes. i had a conversation with her about it. it was more fantasy. there was nothing legitimate to it. >> reporter: what's hard is that a respected doctor was capable of even going down this road. >> i don't understand it either. that was n...

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:06:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:06:00

Shambles, and he thought the open marriage was working, but apparently his wife didn't. three months after their new arrangement, ira says he was shocked when police came knocking on his door. susan had filed a restraining order. >> the sheriff gives me 20 minutes to pack my stuff, whatever i can grab. i'm escorted out of my house. i wind up in my parents' house living in my old high school bedroom. >> reporter: ira says susan claimed he was physically and verbally abusive to her and their children. ira says, not true. >> i am the least abusive person in the world. i don't even discipline my c...

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:47:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:47:00

>> he made it very clear that we were going to be fed to the alligators if we didn't go through with this. >> reporter: you did have another option. you could've just paid them the money and walked away. >> we thought about that. it was $100,000 that he wanted at that point. i don't think they would have went away. and we both came to the same conclusion. >> reporter: but isn't it easier, though, to just not kill someone and walk away and take the money? >> yes. it just at the time we did not feel that that was an option. we didn't feel that they were going to stop. >> reporter: despite their ...

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:17:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:17:00

When can we get the deposit? >> reporter: the next day, detectives were watching when the woman met with marckensy again. this time she suggested how the target should be killed. >> what about like either a hit and run like when she's getting out of the car or like plain accident. somebody backed up into her and the guy stays and says, i didn't see her. you know, it's plain an accident so there is no investigation. >> reporter: over the course of two meetings, the woman also managed to negotiate the price down to $100,000. >> so you'll do it for a hundred? >> reporter: agreed to pay a $2,000 d...

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:39:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline November 30, 2019 09:39:00

Over. my life is over. >> i think he said, i should just kill myself at that point. >> a little later on that night. he goes, i'll never practice again. >> reporter: ira and kelly were charged with conspiracy and solicitation to commit murder. you've heard law enforcement's side of the story, but the couple has a very different version. the would-be killers say they were victims, too. coming up -- >> i saw someone that i loved being hurt. and it was not going to come to an end. >> he made it very clear that we were going to be fed to the alligators if we didn't go through with this. >> when ...