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>> i know you were not lobbying for the sanctions. >> if the form there. >> it says specifically for example here. specific russian aggression of 20 fwraen provisions for energy. you were not lobbying for sanctions on energy. >> that is a description of the subject. and i haven't seen the form, senator. >> let me edify for the future. you don't need a lobbying disclosure form to seek information and clarification about the bill. that's not lobbying. lobbying specifically is to promote a view and position. i am asking to have them included in the record. there was lobbying here had. and senator...

Neither you or exxon lobbied against sanctions and that you were merely seeking information. i have four different lobbying reports as required by the lobbying disclosure that listsex onlobbying spectaculars on four authorizing sanctions including the iran, investment act of 2010 and 2014 in russia aggression. and the ukraine act. i know you are knew to this. my understanding when you employ lobbyist who submit them under the law you are taking a position. >> if the form clearly indicates, i haven't seen the form in your hand. were we lobbying for or against the sanctions.

And since he was around earlier. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, in response to senator men endez question about p the lobbying of the iran sanction. i would ask to put in the record the form from exxon that lobbying was spent on their act. put that in the record mr. chairman. >> no objection. >> i wanted to be chairman. putting information in the record. >> i understand you became chairman while i was talking. >> you always have to watch out, bob. >> without objection.

Expect that i will continue to use whatever means to change our committee practices so our nominee and as many other committees require to file tax returns. that is not unique. small business. >> and very quickly. the second point, the ability of members to ask questions for the record and ask questions of the nominee is respected. i would hope that that would not be deminnished and we have the ability to ask questions for the witnesses in regards to areas that we think is important. >> no one is trying to diminish that. you and i have agreed on a series of questions that come from the committ...

A huge cooperation like the state department you may not know everything that is going on. but you are giving direction as to whether or not you want to be lobbying on certain issues and taking positions or not. you told me p in the world conversation with president-elect you didn't discuss russia. it is difficult to believe that you didn't know exxon was lobbying. >> my understanding they are required wherewhether you are lobby for or agains you are required to report. >> you believe you were paying to money to lobby. >> i don't know. all i know. >> can can you imagine your share holders to l...