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Why can't we have more people from norway? how do you take that as a non-racist situation? explain it to me, mr. urban. >> no. chris, you can call me david. you don't have to call me mr. urban. >> i'm naturally deferential. >> that's fine. again, i think the president was saying, listen, to van's point, let's take folks from nigeria. the president didn't lump in nigeria with the group. >> he said the whole continent. van, go ahead. >> david, so here's the deal. if the president said something i disagree with, but he could have said this, i only want engineers. i only want doctors. i want them ...

People and white people. >> he was talking about countries which are in the tps program and countries that weren't, chris. is that a fact? >> look, i want to say that you're right. you had lowry this morning saying, well, he was talking about the lottery system. he wasn't talking about tps. i believe that's wrong. i believe contextually he had been put on the table a deal to help people who need tps extension as we heard from the ambassador of haiti this morning, they need help. they're here for a reason. that's what he was talking about. and he said, why do we need so many of these people? wh...