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>> kaitlyn? gh it >> it's interesting, though, at the same time, you have conservatives on the hill saying we campaigned on this for six years, if we don't do it now, that's a campaign promise that will have political consequences beyond what we're seeing now then you have conserve dative groups starting to get involved putting on this pressure. i was on the hill today, a lot of republican lawmakers were remarking at the president's address, something that gave them a little momentum at a time that this process has been stalled out and they've been recess where they're getting attacks from con...

Thinkers and said he thought a thousand u.s. troops would die a month and countless more injured in the battle. that was behind closed doors. he hasn't been saying that out loud, has he? >> no, he hasn't and it was a crime against journalism that he wasn't pressed by that, that they didn't get him to say publicly what if -- if these reports are to be believed, what he told in one of his regular off-the-record conversations. why didn't one of the reporters try to get the president to discuss that? this president said he'd get us out of iraq and afghanistan, the last thing he wants to do is get ...

That's the back and forth. being in a campaign environment, i think his preference is to ignore the republican campaign, especially because it's critical of him, and because he finds much of it not based in fact, not based really in this universe. that's how the president of the united states would find. he chooses to ignore it but has to realize more that his political environment is every minute shaped by it. >> this week for the first time, we sort of saw what the president thinks that would cost in terms of lives. he had this closed door meeting with op-ed columnist and thinkers and said h...

>> scientific methods and whatnot? >> yes. it was based on -- texas has a new statute, a junk science law. and they challenged the conviction based on the science that said this didn't happen. >> didn't one of the alleged victims recant her story and say that she indeed wasn't molested? is that the case as well? >> yeah, she did. in fact, i met her on monday and she was waiting kind of discreetly outside of the jail in her car with her husband. she started to question about two years ago, did this really happen? she thought about it. all she could remember was this great week at her apartment ...

Whether or not military interventions like this are necessary. >> first of all, we can't let obama off the hook on afghanistan. obama escalated conventional war, tens of thousands of troops, massive airstrikes. he put stanley mcchrystal, a covert operator the joint operations man in charge of an entire theater of war and tremendous number of civilians killed in the kinds of wars you're describing there. to me the issue isn't because obama is killing less civilians this is a smart policy. we're still in a situation where we're making more enemies than killing terrorist in these operations not j...