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>> for some reason, the whale just took a different approach to what it was going to do with a very senior, very experienced trainer, ken peters and drug him to the bottom of the pool and held him at the bat tom, let him go. picked him up, took him down again. and these periods he was taken down were pretty close to the mark. you know. a minute. a minute 20. when he was at the surface, he didn't panic. he didn't thrash. he didn't scream. maybe he's just built that way, but he stroked the whale. and the whale let go of one foot and grabbed the other.

Detonation? >> yes. and there are some indications of previous investigations law enforcement has done and found some crude explosive devices and that's being developed right now. so we'll get more information on that. >> don, do you also think, when you look at how these men walk in this video, so casually, so confidently, the backpack over their shoulders. they not only mapped out the route but had to test it. that's something you would think at some point somebody else would have noticed. >> absolutely. it looks like these guys definitely had some training. it reminds me of what we saw in m...

The success of both of his campaigns was his refusal to panic. >> yeah. >> and any moment he trusted the people he brought aboard from the very beginning, some of whom were sitting with him. people like david axelrod and robert gibbs who were with him at the beginning of his career were ten feet away from him. he stuck with the same people and listened to them and he never panicked. >> do you know what he did at the dinner -- >> he probably didn't panic enough at the first debate. >> i was sitting behind him after the first debate didn't go well and he said i'm going to mention it, he took a l...

We were down by three points. all the guns started shooting at us. everybody wanted me fired because the ads were terrible and the campaign was going down the drain. they wanted all our heads. it was a lot of talk of internal dissension. and then a couple of weeks later due to the debates and a number of other external factors within the campaign because the campaign didn't panic, we were able to right the ship. i think it's way too early to be writing off the romney campaign. it's a lot of seasoned veterans there. i think they're going to lock down and they understand the dynamics and the phy...

Heroes. without the cooperation of the other members on the flight that we all pulled together. we were able to contain and control the situation, as well as the passengers throughout the entire aircraft that didn't panic, which was exacerbated the problem. i think that's what contributed to a safe landing. >> sean: lori, you were in the fourth row and right there where all of this was happening. what was going on from your perspective? >> from perspective, i knew something was terribly wrong when i saw the captain of the plane run from the back of the plane to the front, screaming. and he beg...