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Because there's no such thing. the pandering, oh well, he does the spanish response. >> is so embarrassing. that is so embarrassing. the guy is from switzerland and he thanks he's from mexico. >> but that immediate, i can speak spanish. >> very stereotypical of democrat candidates. i'm embarrassed. everything from bill eating chicken. >> i think we have a picture. you tell the story. >> she was eating chicken with a fork which is okay. but when she noticed she was in a black restaurant and other people were eating with their fingers, she switched up the game. this is the problem with having ac...

You know, this was -- the president didn't pick him by accident. so, you know, after mueller decides does he want to do that, will whitaker allow it. >> and the president did say, although a lot of people are skeptical, that he didn't know about whitaker's personal views when he asked him to move up to replace -- rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, was supposed to get that job. didn't know about his personal -- >> i don't watch a lot of cnn, but i watch a pretty good amount of cnn. and i think there is nobody in this town that consumes cable news right to the level of the president of...

Compare. and at the end of the day, you know, robert mueller didn't pick roger stone as a witness. he was picked by trump and the trump campaign. so anything that goes to his credibility and his truthfulness really is at the campaign's doorstep and not a problem that investigators have to own. >> dahlia lithwick, joyce vance, thank you both for joining our discussion tonight. and when we come back, the candidate, the best candidate out there today who says she's not a candidate. wait until you see what oprah winfrey had to say on the campaign trail in georgia today. i've always been amazed b...

Criminals you deal with. and that is people like roger stone lie all the time, including lying about having committed a crime. they sure do like lying having committed a crime because they want to boast to whoever they were talking about. how do you sort that out? >> it's really common. you do it by meticulously putting together information to compare. and at the end of the day, you know, robert mueller didn't pick roger stone as a witness. he was picked by trump and the trump campaign. so anything that goes to his credibility and his truthfulness really is at the campaign's doorstep and not a...

Violate laws were born here? >> fair point. the differences people feel like nothing and putting up with illegal immigration and they are never being aligned between legal and illegal immigration. >> don't you think they want someone held accountable? >> do you think that's why jerry brown picked two people who offended so long ago. he didn't pardon kate steinle's murderer, didn't pick people who have been violent in the last two years. he picked people where their main crime, in the eyes of immigration hardliners, is that they crossed into the country illegally in the first place. that's the ...