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Presidency, do you continue to push a policy that seems inherently unworkable, which is to get these people to buy into the notion that u.s.-sponsored state building can work? and i just don't know how anyone ten years out can really argue that one way or the other with serious conviction at this point. >> mark haleprin, i would think the republicans would do mightily well strategically by urging the president to get out of there because getting out is going to be hard. get it done on his watch. >> there were some republicans who didn't run for president who thought that might be an effective ...