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Out there who may become active in this race. so when breaking down the number of people who are democrat versus independent, versus republican, it can get dicey. it's also possible that there are republicans who, you know, similar to trump last year will say publicly that they are not supporting roy moore but privately may end up casting a vote against the democrats. and so, you know, while i see it certainly possible and certain -- and probably likely that today doug joenes is leadig in the polls, it's definitely a coin flip. >> the president didn't support roy moore in the primary. that did...

People and the trumps will benefit from this? this is rich folks sport? >> it's not going to hurt anyone in the hood. it's not going to hurt anyone in appalachia. this is a program that the fish and wildlife has looked at and they have close communication with these other countries and sure are the president's sons going to benefit from this because they like to do this? absolutely. so will a lot of other hunters that do this as a sport. i don't see any problem with the administration taking this action to expand hunting for people that like to do this. this is something that clearly the obama...

Has betrayed anyone at this point. steve: president trump. >> sorry, president trump, but what we do have is a period of time from january until april where we had an increase of 37% in apprehensions over last year because we did have trump and kelly in charge of the department of homeland security and immigration enforcement. since mr. kelly went over to the white house and now that we have an open border's department of homeland security secretary, we are back at square one as we did in the past eight years. steve: are you referring to kristin nilsson at the department of homeland security. ...

Administration taking this action to expand hunting for people that like to do this. this is something that clearly the obama administration didn't support. big supporters of the nra which does support this measure and looked at it from the conservation standpoint. i think it is not going to hurt anyone but will help the people that want to engage in hunting big game. >> it hurts all of us. if we are allowing people to hunt endangered species that hurts the planet. this idea that it just stays local and that chopping off tusks and tails is just a cute thing that hunters like to do is kind of r...

Joan, stand by. mark preston, let me bring you in for this piece of the conversation. because we've also now heard the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has said he talked to president trump. we know he's ban en route home from asia. and he said, just quoting mitch mcconnell, we will have, quote further discussions when the president returns on ray moore further discussions what do you think that means? >> he said he spoke to vice president mike pence and john kelly. what we are seeing is the united states senate is trying to draw the white house into this to help provide cover for them. ...