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That trump's relationship with roger stone goes back roughly 40 years to 1980 when stone and manafort were part of the reagan team and he was very much -- they both learned at the -- both manafort and stone learned at the knee of richard nixon and roy cohn, sort of the dark, say tannic prince of that era. he was the icon of mccarthyism back in the '50s and often describes the essence of pure evil stone learned at his feet and they worked together in the early '80s and he's been a powerful, powerful influence on trump. >> you know it's interesting because one of the things this documentary kind...

Didn't think was the right guy to do nixon one better sort of trump was his new nixon. is that what we're watching here, roger stone sort of dream of a perfect post-nixonian republican president just kind of blowing up in all our faces >> i don't think that roger stone is a deep fphilosophical thinker about politics, joy. i think we have to recognize a lot of these people are off their rockers and not incredibly bright roger stone has left an enormous paper trail he incriminated himself. he essentially self-emulated for all of the language they use, invoking the mob, the old school mobsters no...

Because there's no way that the president, who we all know now is someone who watches cable tv watched michael cohen go out and watched michael cohen's family go out. his daughter, really, almost in tears. there's no way the president watched those people who he knew very well and didn't think, wow, that could be my fate. so i think there's a legal question of whether or not presidents can be indicted. rudy giuliani is counting on the idea the presidents can't be indicted. so i'm guessing president trump is also doing that. when it comes to impeachment, the president is yes, maybe a little wor...

The evidence we have didn't think donald trump was likely to win the campaign although he took all sorts of acts on trump's behalf and didn't think he would end up in jail and both these things are on the table. how does that contrast to say the way it is supposed to be done when people that might be in your position or are advising president's and campaigns get into this murky world of becoming targets or of interest to foreign officials? >> well, you know, i worked on obama's campaign and to the best of my knowledge, nobody was trying to do business deals with foreign governments. let's be c...

The evidence we had, didn't think donald trump was likely to win the campaign, although he took all sorts of acts on trump's behalf and didn't think he was going to end in jail either based on the reckless conduct and both of those things are on the table, donald trump having won and prosecutors recommending four years. how does that contrast to say the way it's supposed to be done when people who might be in your position are advising presidents and campaigns get into this world of becoming targets or becoming of interest to foreign officials? >> well, you know i worked on barack obama's 2008...