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He's going to need the cia and the cia is going to need him. it doesn't mean you agree with him all the time. it doesn't mean you push back all the time. doesn't mean you give the wire brush treatment sometimes. i arc yu they'll probably thrive on that a little bit to have that push back. there is always a dissenting voice that he can hear. when i was chairman, i always asked for the dissentsing voice to be the product or briefing because you want to come to the conclusion and see what kind of rustling they're doing with the pieces of information. intelligence should not ever be politicized, a...

What is your sense, susan, for what happens' happened ? >> i know he's blaming julian for the consistent intelligence officials with russian hacking. this has an impact on public regard for u.s. intelligence. this has a corrosive effect on belief in that institution and here's the most remarkable thing about the interview. you asked a republican congressman if the republican congress would vote to override a veto of a republican president if he vetoed russian sanctions and he suggested they would. what kind of breach is that within the gop before he is gnawing rated? >> no question. is this a ...

Right, there can be disagreements, it's an art, not a science and all that kind of stuff. but the danger in undermining it is when you need it and you go to the american people and say we have imminent reason north korea going to launch a nuke, we can do preimminent attacks, i thought you didn't trust intelligence, how do you know this? i'm excite today support the president-elect when i can. we're going to have a great domestic agenda but this is a concern and i'll continue to be outspoken on. >> you've heard president-elect trump constaptntly bring up the wmd. we heard john brennan say last ...

Give me your honest assessment about what that is, then i'll make a decision. you don't want this to be a big public fight from an agency that should not be heard of all that often. >> isn't a worry here that if the agencies come to him with intelligence that he doesn't find convenient, or that he just doesn't believe, that then he doesn't act on it? >> you asked the congressman what happens if he wants to make this case to the american people based on intelligence. what happens if american intelligence agencies come to him and he doesn't believe them and, therefore, pursues some different pol...

Vetoes them, do you override that veto? >> i certainly hope so. there is the support and the numbers in congress to continue to hold russia accountable to their behavior in the world. look, it's one thing to say we want to reach out and have a new relationship with russia. every administration has reached out and failed. there is nothing wrong with it. there is nothing wrong with challenging behind closed doors the intel agency and saying prove this to me. it is another thing entirely to say despite the intelligence information i'm going to go with assange. >> this is the president-elect who p...