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Interests, foreign powers, foreign satellite channels, perhaps having a bad intention for this country, the demonstrators come back and show patriotic colors, show that they're out for their color. fascinating to see how they respond to some of the tricks of the egyptian government. >> fouad, one of the playbooks that we have been -- one of the tricks from their playbook that we have been witnessing over the last two weeks or so is that when the apparatus of the state didn't work cracking down, using riot police, they used these mobs of thugs who were allowed to get very close to the protestor...

Tricks from their playbook that we have been witnessing over the last two weeks or so is that when the apparatus of the state didn't work cracking down, using riot police, they used these mobs of thugs who were allowed to get very close to the protestors and launch attacks against them. we haven't seen those kind of thugs for several days now. they're still out there. do you imagine that is one weapon still in the regime's arsenal? >> absolutely. these thugs are always in reserve. before that, i want to say something about what ivan watson has reported from the place. it's a remarkable develop...