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Exposing the clinton foundation and then not revealing that he's a donor to the clinton foundation. there's a direct conflict of interest there and i think really a breach of journalistic etiquette. i don't know what's in stephanopoulos' heart, what he believes or try to be objective. it is impossible. you know? i have grown up a partisan. i don't think i'm going to get the sunday morning show as a nonpartisan ever because my whole life has been spent as man that believes in a certain point of view toward limited government. >> should any republican go on that program, go on any of his shows? ...

Than lose. we're not here to try to please sean hannity or any other tv host. we're here to win. >> not tv hosts but also saying when you say that you don't give a damn about what the american people learn. >> they have every right to vote against hillary clinton or anyone they want. >> you want to play prevent defense. you want to put her in hiding. >> only ahead and you think you can win. >> you think that's what she is. >> i know it. i've worked with the clintons. i know their style. i know their approach and advisers. it is the right strategy. >> does he get the not answering a server clea...

You're saying? >> i've made it very clear and made public statements about this. that the issue for me even more so than the donation was the fact that he worked for bill and hillary clinton. how can i as chairman of the national party have the former employee of the clintons who's running on the other side be the person on the stage deposing our candidate? so for me this is just -- you know it's an issue. it's something people will talk about but this was a done deal. >> all right. >> as far as i was concerned. >> as candy crowly hurt mitt romney last time. i would argue stephanopoulos did th...

I felt this was coordinated and doing this because after the interview, it was that interview bill clinton using to defend himself from the charges here. did you feel it was coordinated? >> i think it certainly could have been. and i know people who after watching it said you know it looks like to me like he took the talking points from the clinton campaign and used those. i can't prove that's what happened but it's consistent with what could have happened and the fact that he has this background with the clintons donated to the clinton campaign and didn't disclose it all certainly adds suspic...

With this long question about griz griswold case and it was really about the right to privacy and birth control. but this debate wept on on a somewhat technical legal point for three or four minutes and i'm like i never heard of anybody to ban birth control in the modern era. and lo and behold it became a big campaign theme later on for the democrats. and then the stories that stephanopoulos every day still communicated with rahm emanuel and carville and people at the white house. and i thought it very unusual that people thought that he could be an independent or objective moderator when he h...