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African-american in that community. that gun in his waste was meant for somebody else maybe. he's putting himself on the front line and if they go and search the guy they'll want him to fill out all kinds of forms why did you search him, the cop will get in trouble or if he shot first and officer moore and his partner killed him there would be demonstrations all over the place. >> richard, the anti-cop left in america seems to be i don't know fueling some of this hatred and, you know murder streak that's going on against cops. >> i can't speak to the anti-far police -- it's sad to see this off...

African-american in that community. that gun in his waste was meant for somebody else maybe. he's putting himself on the front line and if they go and search the guy they'll want him to fill out all kinds of forms why did you search him, the cop will get in trouble or if he shot first and officer moore and his partner killed him there would be demonstrations all over the place. >> richard, the anti-cop left in america seems to be i don't know fueling some of this hatred and, you know murder streak that's going on against cops. >> i can't speak to the anti-far police -- it's sad to see this off...

Hatred. and murderous streak going on against cops. >> i can't speak to the anti-police. i was definitely sad to see this officer go so young in his life. it's sad to see anybody die senselessly. the truth of the matter here is what can we do the officers are protecting and serving the communities and the communities working with the police department to make sure we get rid of the criminals like the guy that shot him off the street. that requires real community conversations. if we talk about respect, let's build respect and trust. >> trust and respect are part of the problem here richard. tr...

Truth. >> sorry, guys. >> he's giving us -- no, no. he's giving us the truth and it sounds pessimistic, but i'm optimistic progressive energy around other issues will challenge voters to get into the booths consistently around these particular issues. listen, i also have faith in human compassion, and i hope that people don't have to have a relative of their own die senselessly from gun violence to appreciate why other americans are interested in getting common sense gun safety in place. i mean, if that is the only way -- >> i hope so, too, but here's part of the challenge. jimmy, this is some...