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He didn't ask them to dig dirt. >> that is the dirt. that is the dirt. as soon as i hear -- >> hold on. >> -- that the source is under investigation, he's got stink on him. i've got to go. >> a lot of people have a lot of problems with what hunter biden was engaged in. >> that's fine. you should have gone to the doj and not had your lawyer do a shadow situation. i don't think giuliani should be the fall guy for what this president wants him to do. i've got to jump. i appreciate the arguments. >> we'll see what the american people think. >> 100%. but they don't make the votes. and people have t...

Recognized that we were there at a difficult time. >> he didn't want to get into specifics because he felt under pressure from the u.s.? >> of course there was pressure from the u.s. it's in the president's own transcription of his phone call. there's considerable pressure. $400 million of critical military aid was put on hold and then there was a phone call. then there were further discussions. all the things rudy giuliani and everybody else involved in trying to dig dirt. of course they knew there was serious pressure. the minister of defense had been on the job two weeks. he's trying to gai...

Board and we can start the process with leadership in tow. >> why do you think, congresswoman, that the ukraine phone call and whistleblower's complaint triggered this formal inquiry, but not necessarily the mueller report? >> yeah, i think that as the speaker used to say, this president is in the this is the straw that broke the camel's back. this particular incident shows that the president clearly thinks he's above the law. he is withholding aid so he can pressure a foreign country to dig dirt on a potential presidential opponent. that is very unconstitutional and we must hold mihim respons...

Against, giving them aid and comfort with the u.s. or elsewhere. meeting with a russian lawyer is not treason. listening to someone dig dirt on another opponent is not treason. and how is that giving aid and comfort if you listen to someone give dirt on an opponent? >> kimberly: there wasn't any dirt. >> jesse: there was no dirt. there is another empty promise. collusion is not a crime. collusion is not a legal term. there is no collusion in the statute. there was no price-fixing going on here. we talked about in the last block, illegal coordination with the intent to deceive. there was no cri...