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Private server just is hard to believe unless you put it into context of someone who had been under such harsh attack for over 20 years. >> in april of 2015, hillary rodham clinton once again announced. >> i'm running for president. >> there wasn't anybody else in her way. people talked about joe biden. bernie sanders was a no-name recognition guy from vermont. was in the senate but who knew? >> democratic race right now is so tight, you could bounce a dime off of it. you were there. you were financially secure - it was glorious. how do you know that? i work at ally - it's my job to know about...

I. you are practicing. but just my lay person's read is this is protected parody. >> you don't really have a right to control the way that people play you out as a celebrity. it's parody. there was a parody of me in one of my cases that called me the kim kardashian of lawyers. i was like, does that have something to do with my rear snend i'm not sure. i can't control that. she's saying if you're going to use my image commercially and make money off of it, i have a right to publicity. my right to publicity is to control that. that's part of what she is saying. but i agree with you. >> it's not ...

>> the real cost of parenting. we're talking about in general, you know, $200,000, the cost of raising a child, the first couple years in the tens of thousands and let's be realistic, this is not about the baby, this is about us. we are buying status and we are being good consumers and we're getting pushed on and we really have pushers here and these are folks that really want to make a dime off of us. do we need that stroller? no. same thing we gave advice to everybody spending money. do you need it or want it. >> it's legitimately hard to hold the baby in one arm and fold the stroller and th...

All streets yts and shot it. lien app, i predicted jay would announce they were going to donate some to the movement. why didn't he just do that instead of getting ready of the shirt? i think he obviously made this short, but not because i believe he believes in the wall street protest. i think he just wanted to make a dime off of it. some of the weird press is going, wait a minute, you are not giving us money. he is like, screw it. he makes plenty of money. he doesn't have to act like he is with them or not with them. i don't think he cares. is it possible that they got rid of it because of t...

On it? >> many of the points you bring up are incorrect. if i never made a dime off of this. >> sean: you wrote a book. are you doing this book for free? did you get an advance? >> of course i'm not doing it for free. >> sean: so you are making money off of it. that's my point. >> our difficult story, my life, my wife and children labored through some of the bad decisions that i made. and the decisions that i made to actually carry out things for -- >> sean: i'm trying to understand this why the hell did you stay if you thought she was that awful? >> you know sean, we absolutely need leaders t...