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I think we were pretty confident just based on the overall testimony that was coming forward over the last few weeks that it would become clear that the ukranians were aware of this hold having been placed. now you have a direct corroborating testimony to that, and it puts a lie to the republican defense that somehow the quid pro quo wasn't there because there wasn't ukranian knowledge that there was a quid pro quo. they knew exactly what was being done to them. it was a breathtaking abuse of power on the part of the administration to tie this security assistance to a promise that they would i...

That it would become clear that the ukrainians were aware of this hold having been placed. now you have a direct corroborating testimony to that, and it puts a lie to the republican defense that somehow the quid pro quo wasn't there because there wasn't ukrainian knowledge that there was a quid pro quo. they knew exactly what was being done to them. it was a breathtaking abuse of power on the part of the administration to tie this security assistance to a promise that they would investigate, the ukrainians would investigate a political rival of the president. that's all becoming clear. it will...

Impeachable behavior by the president of the united states. the republicans' four arguments are all trying to undermine a quid pro quo argument. corroborating evidence will overcome it, but democrats have to make a decision. do they require quid pro quo to move an impeachment article or not? >> yeah, it's so clear that it's the solicitation that is the violation. >> that's right. >> and that's all you need is the solicitation, and the solicitation doesn't have to be rewarded with action by the other side you've solicited from. >> that's right. >> it's all right there in solicitation. but this ...