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Did the clinton campaign or the dnc direct steele's activities. they described him as a fusion gps subcontractor. so the sources from whom you got this story are characterizing this not as the clinton campaign and the dnc telling steele, you know, go write this down for us, go tell us this particular story, they were paying him to find out what he could find out and it was -- it was self-directed. >> right. i think -- i think part of what happens is there is an evolution here and it starts out -- you know, when a republican donor hires fusion gps at first, our understanding is they're not real...

Dnc direct steele's activities. they described him as a fusion gps subcontractor. so the sources from whom you got this story are characterizing this not as the clinton campaign and the dnc telling steele, you know, go write this down for us, go tell us this particular story, they were paying him to find out what he could find out and it was -- it was self-directed. >> right. i think -- i think part of what happens is there is an evolution here and it starts out -- you know, when a republican donor hires fusion gps at first, our understanding is they're not really looking at russia that closel...