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Service as a senior adviser to the president. the president has directed mr. mcgahn not to appear at the committee's scheduled hearing. what do we make of cipollone's argument there? >> i think that argument is ultimately going to fail if the judiciary committee challenges this opinion in court. i'm confident that they're going to prevail and get mcgahn to appear. there is only one court case that has ever decided this issue of whether a presidential aide has immunity from even appearing before a court and that one opinion ruled against the white house in that case. it was harriet miers, the b...

Should launch impeachment proceedings. there's new reporting about a split within the party on whether to move forward with that. details, right now from nbc's kelly o'donnell. she is on capitol hill for us. msnbc contributor barbara mcquade, and also with us, hallie jackson with me in the studio. kelly o., i'll start with you there on the hill. walk me through how all of this played out. >> reporter: well, there has been a simmering movement toward impeachment. and basically, this is like, if you survey the democrats, there are those who feel very strongly about it. others who believe that wh...

Literally zero with black and hispanic voters. >> so drawing out african-american turnout is incredibly important for a democratic nominee. it really hurt hillary clinton and it's not as those african-americans showed up to vote for donald trump, they just didn't show up at all. pete buttigieg is making a concerted effort to try to generate more support among african-american democrats. but also the ticket helps, the vice presidential ticket which is probably going to go to somebody, especially a white male on the top of the ticket, someone who's a minority status or a woman, someone who's goi...

Ned, this is how president trump has characterized the relationship with iran right now. >> with iran, we'll see what happens. but they've been very hostile. they've truly been the number one provocateur of terror in this country and, you know, representing their country. we have no indication that anything's happened or will happen, but if it does, it will be met, obviously, with great force. we'll have no choice. >> ned, if you were advising this president, what would you be advising him to do or not do? >> well, i find it fanciful that i would advise this president, but what i would say if ...

Thinks and speaks strategically, but why would the president help evaluate joe biden to front-runner status so early? why not just pretend that joe biden doesn't exist, at least for a few months? >> i'm with you. i don't think there's a strategic rationale here. traditionally, presidents especially during a primary process, adopt this sort of olympian posture where they sit back and scold the field, further the squabbling and portrays himself as very presidential. this is not this president's style. he likes to get down, he likes to get into the mud. and i think that's just instinct chul. i do...