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>> there is a lot that's weird and strange here. collusion is not a federal crime but all of the activities that might go into collusion, misleading statements, collaborating, directing payments, all of those are federal crimes. the experience to engage with others to do them but there's a lot of drl activity that could zboo collusion. >> let's look into the details. collusion isn't a crime. it goes onto say it was over by the election. bid you admit to collusion? >> first of all what does it matter if it is before or after the election? it is something that no, it doesn't make a difference at...

That both the house and the senate, republican-lead we should point out, want to bring michael cohen out. one of the questions that they would like to ask michael cohen is was he instructed to lie or to cover anything up. and the question out there is did the white house -- what did the white house know? could the white house have in any way been involved in that? those hearings questioning some of these folks are going to be fascinating, david. >> right. and politically charged as well, even after the justice department through the special prosecutor goes first in the investigation. what's, i...